Nobody on stage claimed to have the full answer on AI and the workforce. That turned out to be the most useful thing about Beyond Headcount Live.
On Wednesday 4th November 2026, in London we hosted an evening of audience questions. Some were sent in beforehand, the rest arrived live on the night. Lucy Kemp, Chief Growth Officer, and Ollie Whiting, CEO, took them to a panel of five:
- Hiten Parmar, Chief Procurement Officer, Beazley
- Monica Verma, AI adviser and CISO, MonicaTalksCyber
- Alex Bissett-Powell, CTO, McDonald’s UK
- Ben Collis, CHRO, Zilch
- Barry Sacks, Group CTO, La Fosse
Hiten, Monica, Alex and Ben are members of our AI Workforce Council, and Barry co-authored the Beyond Headcount Blueprint. Six threads ran through the night. These are the ones that stuck.
1. Plan for capacity and outcomes, not headcount
The opening question asked what a mature operating model looks like once headcount, FTE and spans of control stop describing how work gets done. Ben didn’t want “mature”. He’d rather aim for “an agile, adaptable operating model”, and he warned against handing AI to a single division. Look at the whole operating cost instead, he said, because there’s little point saving on FTE if token spend is climbing somewhere else. Then he rewrote the question itself: “How do humans and agents work together to best deliver on this workflow?”
Barry explained why the rewrite matters. “If you think about it as a capacity question, then you can quite readily divorce the correlation between headcount and output, and think about capacity and outcomes.”
Monica said most organisations overlook a third ingredient. “It’s not just agentic. It’s agentic, programmatic, and human.” Agents earn their keep on unstructured data. For everything else, plain automation does the job and saves the tokens.
Hiten offered a way to check the balance. Track how much work agents handle, how accurate it is, what breaks, and how long a person takes to fix it. Feed that back into the automation and the plan improves as it runs.
2. Redesign the work, don’t just speed it up
Here’s a simple test for whether AI is changing a business: has the shape of the work changed, or only its speed? Barry was blunt about it. “If you’re just optimizing or automating existing process, you’re probably not thinking broadly enough or deeply enough about the opportunity.”
Alex laid out two roads. AI either reinvents your industry, or your business looks much the same while delivering in a completely different way. Ben’s advice was to pick your road first. Decide what the company will be in five years and how it will win, then build the workflows around that.
Monica named the skill that sits underneath all of it: being an architect. Whoever understands a workflow from end to end, and how it connects to the business outcome, will steer agents well.
3. Let people play, safely
Alex’s answer on easing anxiety about AI was short: create safe environments where people can play with AI tools. The approach protects the business too, because people go and find their own tools if you don’t offer any.
Hiten gave it a name. “That psychological safety to be curious, experiment, and then fail but learn is really, really important culturally.” Ben added a point about leadership. People fill gaps with worry, so leaders should fill them with a clear vision, then help teams set goals that show what it means for them.
Monica didn’t hedge on the controls. “Don’t ban AI tools. Provide the managed AI tools that you control, so that you manage your risk yourself.” She also put a new phrase into the room: the “meat proxy”, someone whose job is just to pass on what an agent says. “You don’t want your workers to become meat proxies.” And on safeguards: “You have to put the controls in the harness, not in the models.”
4. Protect the way in for the next generation
Several audience questions circled the same worry: what happens to entry-level roles? Alex gave the plainest answer of the night: if we don’t bring those people in, who will eventually be running the company? He called it an obligation, and a conscious one.
Hiten turned to how to find them. “If the CV is the one and only avenue you use, then you’re missing talent that your competitor is getting.” His team leans on assessment and interviews, and looks beyond the usual routes, from apprenticeships to degrees. AI-native entrants, he added, bring reverse mentoring and fresh challenge.
5. Know your costs, and your fallback
Cost and resilience aren’t glamorous, but they kept coming back. Alex warned that we aren’t yet paying the true cost of AI, and that prices tend to rise once a product is established. Hiten expects more of the AI budget to move into business budgets, not only technology, as organisations focus on outcomes.
Monica’s advice on resilience: map your “minimum viable business”, meaning the functions that must keep running if the tools go down, and the fallback for each. For some organisations that will mean open-weight models under their own control, and people with the skills to run them. Hiten said resilience, including across suppliers and their suppliers, sits in his board’s top three priorities and is already shaping his workforce and location strategy.
6. What the Council wish they’d known six months ago
The final question asked each panellist what they know now that they wish they’d known in Q1.
- Hiten: “I wish I knew that no one’s got a silver bullet to this.”
- Barry: “There isn’t a known blueprint… It is an industrial revolution, and we have to work it out as we go. But you don’t have to do that alone.”
- Monica: “Resilience is about not just bouncing back, but actually becoming stronger than you were before.”
- Alex: he’s become more comfortable not knowing all the answers.
- Ben: the economics of tokens will keep shifting, with real consequences for workforce planning.
- Lucy: she wishes she’d let people be more playful with AI sooner.
- Ollie: he wishes he’d decentralised AI sooner, so it sat in the divisions and not only in technology.
What’s next
All of this is the thinking behind the Beyond Headcount Blueprint, which the panel co-authored. Download your copy here, and pass it on to anyone in your network who would find it useful.
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